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{ timecode: 0, handler: 'blob', id: 1, data: {text: 'REPRESENTATIVE BARBARA BALLARD: Continue with our panel. I hope you have enjoyed this morning with all of the issues we talked about on mental health. I think those are things that we can use in our '}},
{ timecode: 10, handler: 'blob', id: 2, data: {text: 'communities. We certainly can contribute to our church discussion. We can certainly enlighten members of the legislature that may not have this knowledge. There are some that really want to know, and '}},
{ timecode: 20, handler: 'blob', id: 3, data: {text: 'that’s who we really want to share this information with. And again, I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again and so have some of the other legislators, we are very fortunate to '}},
{ timecode: 31, handler: 'blob', id: 4, data: {text: 'have Eli Lilly help us do something like this. I don’t know how many places that will have this opportunity and I mean the knowledge is there and we definitely know from this morning and from '}},
{ timecode: 46, handler: 'blob', id: 5, data: {text: 'everything else we know that there is such a great need for mental health, and there’s certainly the need for more money for it. But, you know even if you didn’t have the money you need '}},
{ timecode: 57, handler: 'blob', id: 6, data: {text: 'the understanding and you could do better with the resources you do have. So, it’s not like money’s going to buy it, we just have to make sure that we have the right people at the right '}},
{ timecode: 69, handler: 'blob', id: 7, data: {text: 'places in order to deliver those services that we need for our African-Americans. At this point, I do want to introduce State Representative Brenda Clack, and she’s the first vice-president of '}},
{ timecode: 82, handler: 'blob', id: 8, data: {text: 'our NBCSL health policy committee and Brenda is one active woman. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Thank you, Vice President Ballard. It’s not difficult to be. This is a wonderful organization. I do '}},
{ timecode: 102, handler: 'blob', id: 9, data: {text: 'enjoy working with it, so it’s not difficult to be active in this type of organization. We’re in phase two of the panelist. In phase two will be the Black family and we certainly have some '}},
{ timecode: 117, handler: 'blob', id: 10, data: {text: 'wonderful panelists who will provide information for us today. Let me first introduce to you Reverend Toni R. Colbert who was born and raised in St. Louis, Missouri by her mother, who was a single '}},
{ timecode: 130, handler: 'blob', id: 11, data: {text: 'parent. Her primary education was received in St. Louis public school system and Indianapolis has been her home since 1989. Reverend Colbert is a registered nurse who graduated from St. Louis '}},
{ timecode: 143, handler: 'blob', id: 12, data: {text: 'Municipal School of Nursing and is providing wonderful leadership in this field of medicine. She holds a Bachelors Degree in Health Arts from the College of St. Francis in Joliet, Illinois, a Masters '}},
{ timecode: 158, handler: 'blob', id: 13, data: {text: 'in Management and a Masters of Divinity from the Christian Theological Seminary. She has vast information that she has provided for us, and I’ll just highlight some of it. She is an anchored '}},
{ timecode: 171, handler: 'blob', id: 14, data: {text: 'member of the historical Light of the World Christian Church, has been so for 19 years and she serves on the staff of the church’s as minister of pastoral counseling. She’s a board member '}},
{ timecode: 183, handler: 'blob', id: 15, data: {text: 'of the Indianapolis Church Federation and a member of the Indianapolis Health Merit Coalition. She is founder and owner of the Pastoral Counseling of Indiana. Among her joys, she has a son, who is the '}},
{ timecode: 199, handler: 'blob', id: 16, data: {text: 'joy of her life, who is a classical jazz violinist, who is pursuing a degree in music education. I’ll go through and introduce all of them and then we’ll go back. So, the joy of her life '}},
{ timecode: 209, handler: 'blob', id: 17, data: {text: 'is her son, who is a jazz violinist. Our second panelist is Ms. Delphia Large, who presently serves as counselor at the Legacy House in Indianapolis, who received her degree from Oakland University. '}},
{ timecode: 228, handler: 'blob', id: 18, data: {text: 'For the past seven years, she’s been employed with the Health and Hospital Corporation. Her position entails counseling victims of violence, particularly victims of domestic violence. She lives '}},
{ timecode: 242, handler: 'blob', id: 19, data: {text: 'by motto of emphasis that emphasizes education. Education of both men and women on domestic violence, and the community is her charge. Currently, she working on her Masters Degree in social work for '}},
{ timecode: 258, handler: 'blob', id: 20, data: {text: 'the University of Indiana. We have also with us Weslynn Whitlow, who was born and raised in Michigan City in Indiana. Parents are Mr. and Mrs. Whitlow, who are happily married for 47 years. She is a '}},
{ timecode: 274, handler: 'blob', id: 21, data: {text: 'resident of Indianapolis and attended the Indiana Business College with an Associates Degree in Business Management. She has been at the World of Light Christian Church for 10 years and enjoys the '}},
{ timecode: 290, handler: 'blob', id: 22, data: {text: 'wonderful fellowship that she receives from this church. She has lived through domestic violence, and she said, “And that is why I’m here”. Our last panelist is, and I have to give '}},
{ timecode: 301, handler: 'blob', id: 23, data: {text: 'credit where credit is due, she said to call her Flora, but I’m so proud of those of us who have moved forward, Dr. Flora Bell Bryant, and I have to say it, who has a vast educational experience '}},
{ timecode: 315, handler: 'blob', id: 24, data: {text: 'in the field of clinical psychology, who was employed in 1996, I think until now, by the Department of State, if not please correct me, has worked in Washington D.C. as head of a crisis team. She has '}},
{ timecode: 332, handler: 'blob', id: 25, data: {text: 'experience at Howard University School of Social Work as a faculty member and has done quite a bit of work in biological psychology and in socialized field of research. She has also served as a member '}},
{ timecode: 350, handler: 'blob', id: 26, data: {text: 'in several areas as the family developmental specialist. We have four wonderful panelists today and beginning with the very first one after we do the panelists, I understand we’ll go back and '}},
{ timecode: 363, handler: 'blob', id: 27, data: {text: 'pick up Detroit, I think, so with our panelists we’ll begin with our first, Reverend Toni Colbert. Let’s give her a hand please. REVEREND TONI COLBERT: Certainly, I thank you for this '}},
{ timecode: 380, handler: 'blob', id: 28, data: {text: 'opportunity. I thank the Lord for this opportunity, to the National Black Caucus of State Legislators, to you the conferees, to the panelists for this session, as well as to my pastor, Bishop '}},
{ timecode: 393, handler: 'blob', id: 29, data: {text: 'Benjamin, this assignment was originally his, however, he was unable to be here and allowed me this opportunity. It is him that I also thank because I myself would not be here if it had not been for '}},
{ timecode: 405, handler: 'blob', id: 30, data: {text: 'him rescuing me, so I thank him for that. My opening statement about the black family, the church and community. The black church. The black church has been the heart and the source of the strength of '}},
{ timecode: 420, handler: 'blob', id: 31, data: {text: 'the African American community. The black church has fed hope during slavery and was held as a meeting place during the Civil Rights Movements. The black church has been a beacon of light for the '}},
{ timecode: 433, handler: 'blob', id: 32, data: {text: 'weary, the broken and the down trodden. The African American church has been the center for other communities, not to mention serving as the schools for, in the early years, after the Civil War. The '}},
{ timecode: 447, handler: 'blob', id: 33, data: {text: 'black church has taken on a lot of the social welfare functions for the underemployed and the unemployed. The black church provides basic needs, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked and offering '}},
{ timecode: 462, handler: 'blob', id: 34, data: {text: 'limited financial assistance for those in crisis. We have some black churches who have established schools in our communities. Serve special programs. The black church provides moral support and space '}},
{ timecode: 477, handler: 'blob', id: 35, data: {text: 'for community programs to meet. The black church has its own style of worshipping God, can I get an amen? AUDIENCE: Amen! REVEREND TONI COLBERT: There is no greater institution that exists than the '}},
{ timecode: 491, handler: 'blob', id: 36, data: {text: 'black church. Our challenge: The black church is deeply disturbed to witness the eroding black family at an alarming rate. For example, as many of you know, the nucleus of the family as we know it has '}},
{ timecode: 509, handler: 'blob', id: 37, data: {text: 'changed. In 2002, almost half of our homes were headed by two parents. Today, over 62% of them are headed by single parents. Our population ranks #1 in so many of the different health risk categories. '}},
{ timecode: 527, handler: 'blob', id: 38, data: {text: 'Mental health is just one of them. Some of this is due to health disparities. I was just watching on T.V. very recently that we have a lot of our families, our black families, who are playing Russian '}},
{ timecode: 540, handler: 'blob', id: 39, data: {text: 'roulette with their health. They don’t have health, they don’t have money, so they don’t get the health or they should take medicines three times a day, they only take it one time a '}},
{ timecode: 547, handler: 'blob', id: 40, data: {text: 'day. That’s playing Russian roulette with your health. When you are affected physiologically, psychologically and emotionally, everything is compromised, and it also compromises our mental '}},
{ timecode: 561, handler: 'blob', id: 41, data: {text: 'health. The health of the black family is essential to the life and the culture of the black community, and the black church. What’s our response? The church is usually the first place where the '}},
{ timecode: 580, handler: 'blob', id: 42, data: {text: 'black community comes to. We need to be aware of the power and how we empower others to seek care. The church has not always done a good job in sanctioning people to get mental health. As a matter of '}},
{ timecode: 598, handler: 'blob', id: 43, data: {text: 'fact, some have felt that sharing a mental health diagnosis in the church was actually a death sentence. We must go beyond saying, “Pray about it”. I agree with an article written by Karla '}},
{ timecode: 613, handler: 'blob', id: 44, data: {text: 'Dedman. It said seeking help is not a weakness and it is not ungodly. I agree with the National Black Church Initiative out of Washington D.C. It says we need to re-look at our role in the church for '}},
{ timecode: 627, handler: 'blob', id: 45, data: {text: 'supporting and attacking the root cause of mental illness. We are perishing because of a lack of knowledge. African Americans tend to pay attention to their pastors and their church leaders. Church '}},
{ timecode: 641, handler: 'blob', id: 46, data: {text: 'leadership should become educated in the area of mental health, beginning with their own fears, and their own biases in this area. In order to help others get over their fears of talking about their '}},
{ timecode: 655, handler: 'blob', id: 47, data: {text: 'problems, we need to deal with our own. We have a gulf of mistrust in the African American community. I remember my mother saying, “Keep my business in the house”, and this is something '}},
{ timecode: 668, handler: 'blob', id: 48, data: {text: 'that is killing us, and I believe that that’s on the topic for later. But, we must get over our fears of talking about our problems. The church must not remain silent. We need to make our voices '}},
{ timecode: 682, handler: 'blob', id: 49, data: {text: 'heard regarding certain policies, bringing them to your attention. We must continue to work towards being good role models for the members of our community. And finally, we must be careful not to be '}},
{ timecode: 697, handler: 'blob', id: 50, data: {text: 'so heavenly minded that we are no earthly good. My pastor says that. We must be sensitive to what’s happening in the African American community and we need to find out ways of promoting and '}},
{ timecode: 714, handler: 'blob', id: 51, data: {text: 'strengthening our families. Ladies, you do have the option of coming to the mic here if you prefer. DELPHIA LARGE: I’d like to say thank you to the National Black Caucus of State Legislators and '}},
{ timecode: 757, handler: 'blob', id: 52, data: {text: 'also Greg Porter for asking me to do this. I am talking to you about domestic violence and one of the things I’ve heard, I wasn’t here this morning, but one of the things I heard is that '}},
{ timecode: 772, handler: 'blob', id: 53, data: {text: 'there was some talk about how Veterans had been affected in different areas of mental health. Not only are the Veterans who are at war overseas, there’s also another war going on, a whole lot of '}},
{ timecode: 791, handler: 'blob', id: 54, data: {text: 'wars going on, and those wars are within our homes. A lot of wars are going on. We as a people, we don’t like to, as the reverend said, we like to keep our stuff, with our stuff, in our own '}},
{ timecode: 808, handler: 'blob', id: 55, data: {text: 'homes thinking that we have, you know, we can solve these problems, but the problems are too big, they’re way too big. But it’s prevalent that domestic violence issue is prevalent in all '}},
{ timecode: 825, handler: 'blob', id: 56, data: {text: 'communities. All communities. But, we’re talking about African Americans today. I’m talking about my people today and what we can do to stop this issue that is so prevalent in our '}},
{ timecode: 844, handler: 'blob', id: 57, data: {text: 'community and our neighborhoods and our homes. Domestic violence is a public health issue, because it relates to our well-being. Who I am mentally, who I am emotionally. Domestic violence is messed '}},
{ timecode: 867, handler: 'blob', id: 58, data: {text: 'up. It will keep you messed up for years and years and years. The scars, the physical scars leave, they leave, they do. A couple weeks, you got a black eye, you got a broken this, you got a broken '}},
{ timecode: 885, handler: 'blob', id: 59, data: {text: 'that. It heals. It does. Usually, it heals. But, when we’re talking about the emotional abuse and we’re talking about the verbal abuse, we’re talking about something that is deep. '}},
{ timecode: 901, handler: 'blob', id: 60, data: {text: 'We’re talking about, we’re thinking about your brain, I’m not a psychologist or anything like that, but I do know that we store lots of information in our minds and domestic violence '}},
{ timecode: 914, handler: 'blob', id: 61, data: {text: 'hearing a comment, a derogatory comment or a name or “yeah not this and you’ll never be that”. That stuff sticks. And when it sticks, we think about, “Well why does such and '}},
{ timecode: 935, handler: 'blob', id: 62, data: {text: 'such feel like she feels about herself as a person”? It’s because so many things are ingrained back here. Things that we don’t see. We can’t see a scar up in the brain. But '}},
{ timecode: 950, handler: 'blob', id: 63, data: {text: 'it’s there. When a perpetrator, when an abuser uses his power and control over another person by using verbal attacks and emotional distress, we don’t know that. You would never know that '}},
{ timecode: 968, handler: 'blob', id: 64, data: {text: 'I am a survivor of domestic violence. I don’t like to really disclose that a whole lot, because it’s not really relevant right now. But I guess it is in saying that, did you know I was? '}},
{ timecode: 979, handler: 'blob', id: 65, data: {text: 'No. Until I told you. So, what I’m saying is, do you see how it can affect your life for the rest of your life if we let it. So, I’m saying all this, I’m not even reading from my '}},
{ timecode: 995, handler: 'blob', id: 66, data: {text: 'notes, and I guess I should to stay on task, but we have to educate every African American about domestic violence. From two, three, four, five on up. Now, a couple of things I did want to say and '}},
{ timecode: 1015, handler: 'blob', id: 67, data: {text: 'then I’m going to sit down, is that when we’re talking about domestic violence, we’re not just talking about physical. Forget the physical right now. Because we already know that. We '}},
{ timecode: 1024, handler: 'blob', id: 68, data: {text: 'already know that physical violence is domestic violence. But, I want you to keep this in your mind that the emotional, the verbal, the financial, the spiritual, the social, the sexual, all those can '}},
{ timecode: 1040, handler: 'blob', id: 69, data: {text: 'be part of domestic violence. So, I don’t want you to leave from here today thinking that it’s just all, you know, if she didn’t get a black eye then it’s not, get over it. No. '}},
{ timecode: 1052, handler: 'blob', id: 70, data: {text: 'Absolutely not. This thing keeps our community suppressed because it leaves, we were talking about, I’m just going to use the male, not anything against my black brothers because I love them. '}},
{ timecode: 1069, handler: 'blob', id: 71, data: {text: 'But it leaves our families fatherless. It increases our numbers in the criminal justice system. It leaves our families with single parent, in single parent homes. With one income or no income. '}},
{ timecode: 1099, handler: 'blob', id: 72, data: {text: 'That’s suppression to me. So, what can we do, what will we do, what are we going to do, what is our future like? What is this about? So my thing is education. I’m a big educator. I use my '}},
{ timecode: 1117, handler: 'blob', id: 73, data: {text: 'dry erase board, it is worn out, because I think that it’s important for me to show these women where they are. A bunch of talk. Yeah, I’m doing a bunch of talk right now, but a bunch of '}},
{ timecode: 1130, handler: 'blob', id: 74, data: {text: 'talk to them, it doesn’t seem to stick. So, I have to show them. I got to show them why they’re still in that situation. “But I love him, you just don’t know, you don’t '}},
{ timecode: 1139, handler: 'blob', id: 75, data: {text: 'know, I love him.” Okay, you do love him, but why did you learn to love him in the beginning. What was is about you that made you think that that was love? So, it’s about our self image, '}},
{ timecode: 1154, handler: 'blob', id: 76, data: {text: 'our self acceptance, our self worth. But, we got to start from here. We got to start from little bittys. And keeping our young people in a positive light about who they are. You know, domestic '}},
{ timecode: 1173, handler: 'blob', id: 77, data: {text: 'violence is not an easy subject to talk about, so I’m going to end right there. But, if you ever need some information about education on domestic violence, see me. I’m at Legacy House. '}},
{ timecode: 1186, handler: 'blob', id: 78, data: {text: 'We’re an initiative of Health and Hospital Corporation which Greg Porter is the vice-president of external affairs and Legacy House falls under external affairs. So, if you ever need any '}},
{ timecode: 1199, handler: 'blob', id: 79, data: {text: 'information about it, please don’t hesitate to ask, in Indianapolis, yes I’m sorry I forgot we’re talking to different folks, but yes in Indianapolis, Marion County in Indianapolis. '}},
{ timecode: 1212, handler: 'blob', id: 80, data: {text: 'So, if you ever need any information about domestic violence, I’m not saying I know everything, because I don’t, but I’ll certainly call Weslynn or Reverend Colbert if I need to '}},
{ timecode: 1224, handler: 'blob', id: 81, data: {text: 'because it’s all about collaboration. It’s all about coming together. It’s all about doing this thing and eradicating this domestic violence issue. Thank you. WESLYNN WHITLOW: Hello, '}},
{ timecode: 1243, handler: 'blob', id: 82, data: {text: 'good afternoon. My name is Weslynn Whitlow. I’m here to tell you my story about domestic violence. I am a survivor of it. I’m a thriver of it. I’m totally blessed. I started at a '}},
{ timecode: 1258, handler: 'blob', id: 83, data: {text: 'young age. I married my high school sweetheart and everything was fine. We moved to Atlanta to try to better ourselves. He had two sisters there and we were a family and then he started hanging out '}},
{ timecode: 1272, handler: 'blob', id: 84, data: {text: 'with my brother-in-laws and drinking and becoming a totally different person. But to say this, I loved him. I lived with him for two years and after a while it just got worse. When I was pregnant he '}},
{ timecode: 1286, handler: 'blob', id: 85, data: {text: 'tried to choke me. I was like I’m carrying your child and you say you love me, but you tried to choke me and kill me. And after that, I had, you know gone through contractions and I was like why '}},
{ timecode: 1298, handler: 'blob', id: 86, data: {text: 'are you doing this to me? Finally, I got to a point where I said I love you enough to leave you because I cannot raise my child and keep the vicious cycle going. And this is what I’m trying to '}},
{ timecode: 1312, handler: 'blob', id: 87, data: {text: 'get to, is it is a vicious cycle. If our children are raised in a home where you are arguing and you are fighting and you say you love somebody, but if you love them you would not put your hands on '}},
{ timecode: 1324, handler: 'blob', id: 88, data: {text: 'them. And I understand that, you know, we say we love them and it’s hard to leave, but it’s also worth my life and raising my child the best way that God helps me to raise them. It was a '}},
{ timecode: 1338, handler: 'blob', id: 89, data: {text: 'very difficult situation; I tried to cover it up from my family, from my friends. I got to a point where I just said, God, you know if you want me to live like this, help me to live like this, but I '}},
{ timecode: 1352, handler: 'blob', id: 90, data: {text: 'was not raised like that. I said, my parents were happily married for 47 years. So you can understand I was young and I was scared. I’m like 22 years old. And I thought, gosh what do I do? I '}},
{ timecode: 1362, handler: 'blob', id: 91, data: {text: 'asked God to help me. I asked God to either strengthen me and give me what I needed to survive this or get me out because I was at a point where I wanted retaliation. We had a gun in the house and I '}},
{ timecode: 1378, handler: 'blob', id: 92, data: {text: 'got to a point where I wanted to kill him because I wanted it to stop. But God revealed to me that you have a child to raise, and I didn’t want him to raise him, because evidently it would not '}},
{ timecode: 1388, handler: 'blob', id: 93, data: {text: 'have been a healthy thing for my child. So, I know that for women, it is hard for us to leave. But, we have to make up in our mind and we have to love ourselves, and I love myself and was raised '}},
{ timecode: 1401, handler: 'blob', id: 94, data: {text: 'enough to know that that was not right, and God gave me the strength, thank God to get out. You know, we were young and like I said I didn’t have a lot of money, but I asked God, give me the '}},
{ timecode: 1414, handler: 'blob', id: 95, data: {text: 'funds to get out. My son was eight months old when I left him. And he was like, “Oh, you love me. You’ll never leave me. I love you. I’ll never hit you again”. Well, we went '}},
{ timecode: 1423, handler: 'blob', id: 96, data: {text: 'through that several times and I got to a point where I said, my son was sleeping one night, and he had been drinking, and he tried to have, his father had his way with me. You know you’re not '}},
{ timecode: 1433, handler: 'blob', id: 97, data: {text: 'wanting to be intimate with them or anything. If I may say that? And I just got to the point where I went through the motions and I was laying there and he was knocked out drunk, and my son was '}},
{ timecode: 1444, handler: 'blob', id: 98, data: {text: 'sleeping and I got up and I looked over his crib, and I said Lord, I got to go. I got the money, and I said I got to go. My parents didn’t know what was going on because like I said I hid that '}},
{ timecode: 1455, handler: 'blob', id: 99, data: {text: 'from them. I had a girlfriend, I couple of friends, and she had just moved. So, I didn’t even know where she lived. So, that was my safe house. So, I thank God I had somewhere to go. In the '}},
{ timecode: 1466, handler: 'blob', id: 100, data: {text: 'middle of the night, about 1 or 2 o’clock in the morning I packed my car with my son’s milk, Pampers, clothes and I just grabbed two outfits for me, because it was more important to have '}},
{ timecode: 1477, handler: 'blob', id: 101, data: {text: 'as much for my son than it was just for me. I could go buy some clothes, but our health and our well-being was the most important to me. So, I called my girlfriend. I went to, we lived in Atlanta, I '}},
{ timecode: 1490, handler: 'blob', id: 102, data: {text: 'lived in Riverdale and I went to the College Park train station and I called her in the middle of the night and I got her voice mail. And I was like, “Kathy, it’s me Weslynn. If '}},
{ timecode: 1499, handler: 'blob', id: 103, data: {text: 'you’re there please answer the phone, because I need you.” It went to voice mail. I called back and she picked up the phone and I said, “Where do you live?” I got to come to '}},
{ timecode: 1508, handler: 'blob', id: 104, data: {text: 'your house. She was like, “What’s wrong?” I was like, “I’ll explain it later, just give me a place to go that’s safe.” I think it’s very important, and '}},
{ timecode: 1516, handler: 'blob', id: 105, data: {text: 'I thank God for her because that was my safe haven, this was an early Sunday morning. That Sunday I called my parents. I did not tell him that it was a physical thing that made me, you know the '}},
{ timecode: 1527, handler: 'blob', id: 106, data: {text: 'violence made me leave. I said, “Mom, I got to come home.” I said, “I need you and Dad to help me”. And they said, “Come home.” I bought a plane ticket. I was gone '}},
{ timecode: 1538, handler: 'blob', id: 107, data: {text: 'on Monday morning. I called my boss and I was like, “I gotta go.” And he’s like, “No, you can live here with us. Do you have a place to stay and get on your feet?” I '}},
{ timecode: 1546, handler: 'blob', id: 108, data: {text: 'said, “No, I’m going home where there’s love.” Because at that time I needed love. And I needed to know that in spite of, you know, all that was said and done in my life, I '}},
{ timecode: 1556, handler: 'blob', id: 109, data: {text: 'just needed love at that time. So, I think it’s very important, yes I was a single mother and I raised my son. He’s 17-years-old. Thank God. He will be 18. And it’s by the grace of '}},
{ timecode: 1567, handler: 'blob', id: 110, data: {text: 'God. But, I know that, you know he understands everything, you know, we did a video shoot about a year ago and I had to sit him down and I explained to him everything. I said I’ve got to. This '}},
{ timecode: 1579, handler: 'blob', id: 111, data: {text: 'is my ministry and I’ve got to reach every woman that I can and let her know that you can be healthy and whole and have a whole life, where I walked around bitter for a long time. But, God '}},
{ timecode: 1591, handler: 'blob', id: 112, data: {text: 'released me of that and now it is my job to help as many women as I can, to let them know that you don’t have to live like that. And your children don’t have to live like that. Because, '}},
{ timecode: 1603, handler: 'blob', id: 113, data: {text: 'raising a boy, I thought, oh God, what am I going to do, but God is good and He is faithful. And by the grace of God I am here and I thank God for Reverend Colbert, that is my mentor and Bishop '}},
{ timecode: 1615, handler: 'blob', id: 114, data: {text: 'Benjamin is my pastor. I thank God that they taught me how to be a Christian woman and to seek God to raise my son and for our Abigail’s Ministry I think that it is very important that you as '}},
{ timecode: 1629, handler: 'blob', id: 115, data: {text: 'decision makers help us in our church families to realize that we have to shatter the silence because so many women are affected by this. We have to help them as much as we can to let them know that '}},
{ timecode: 1644, handler: 'blob', id: 116, data: {text: 'there is a wonderful, thriving life that you can have. Single mother, by yourself, whatever. You can be made whole. And with God’s help, that’s why the church has to let this be known. We '}},
{ timecode: 1656, handler: 'blob', id: 117, data: {text: 'have to stop being silent. And we have to stop saying, “Oh, it’ll be okay.” No it’s not going to be okay. We have to show them love and we have to help as many as we can. I '}},
{ timecode: 1665, handler: 'blob', id: 118, data: {text: 'feel for the women that are too scared to leave because they have been threatened. I was threatened too, but I refused to live like that. When you decide to leave, and when I told him I was leaving '}},
{ timecode: 1675, handler: 'blob', id: 119, data: {text: 'him, he didn’t believe me, he said, “You’ll never leave me.” I said, “I could show you better than I could tell you.” So, we have to get to a point where the church '}},
{ timecode: 1684, handler: 'blob', id: 120, data: {text: 'is not afraid to stand up and say, “We’re going to shatter the silence and help as many people as we can.” We need shelters. So many shelters for women who don’t have family '}},
{ timecode: 1696, handler: 'blob', id: 121, data: {text: 'like I did to go to. So, I just thank you for this opportunity to share my story in the short time that I have, but I thank God that you are here and that you found it important in your busy schedules '}},
{ timecode: 1710, handler: 'blob', id: 122, data: {text: 'to try to reach out and try to help this mental health that’s going on, because it is in the mind. And what goes to the mind, flows to the heart. If we don’t get our hearts and our minds '}},
{ timecode: 1721, handler: 'blob', id: 123, data: {text: 'healthy, our generation, their generation will never be healthy. So, I just thank you for the opportunity to share my story and may God bless you. DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: Good afternoon. I would like '}},
{ timecode: 1747, handler: 'blob', id: 124, data: {text: 'to thank the National Black Caucus of State Legislators. I’d like to thank Deana McRae and most of all, but not really most, but additionally I would like to thank Weslynn. Is that your first '}},
{ timecode: 1763, handler: 'blob', id: 125, data: {text: 'name? For her courage. Because one of the things I will be talking about are things that are hard to hear such as denial, sexual abuse, incest, the myths that if you just go to church it will all be '}},
{ timecode: 1794, handler: 'blob', id: 126, data: {text: 'alright, and some of the most abusive people do it. I don’t even have to finish that sentence, do I? But I’d like to begin with an African proverb. I had the joy of being a volunteer at '}},
{ timecode: 1816, handler: 'blob', id: 127, data: {text: 'the Museum of African Art for 20 years. And the proverb says, ‘We are therefore, I am and I am therefore we are’. I here people say, “Now that we’re in the suburbs, it '}},
{ timecode: 1840, handler: 'blob', id: 128, data: {text: 'doesn’t affect us. Racism or abuse”. The sin is bad news. They don’t teach their children how to deal with the day to day subtleties or not-so-subtleties of trying to get a taxi if '}},
{ timecode: 1861, handler: 'blob', id: 129, data: {text: 'you’re a male on Times Square or in Washington D.C. around the Capitol. So that one of the topics I just want to urge you is no matter what your income or your status is, have the guts to tell '}},
{ timecode: 1879, handler: 'blob', id: 130, data: {text: 'your children the truth about your history or your heritage. And tell them that six figure income doesn’t keep them from having to have the skills of managing anger by saying this is not about '}},
{ timecode: 1904, handler: 'blob', id: 131, data: {text: 'me, but how I manage my anger is about me. So, I’m going to talk to you about personal power skills which is the thing the slave owners wanted us most not to have. So, the second heading is, '}},
{ timecode: 1925, handler: 'blob', id: 132, data: {text: '‘It begins with me.’ It doesn’t begin with who I am or what I do, it begins with my attitude about myself. How many of you have a car that you’ve paid more than $20,000 for? '}},
{ timecode: 1944, handler: 'blob', id: 133, data: {text: 'Put your hands down. How many of you go to get that car checked regularly? How many of you have a computer that you need help with on a regular basis? Okay. Is that car and that computer more valuable '}},
{ timecode: 1973, handler: 'blob', id: 134, data: {text: 'than your mental health? Than stop acting like it is. So, we’re talking about how denial will kill you. We’re talking truth here. One of my friends in Washington D.C. is Dr. Francis Cress '}},
{ timecode: 1993, handler: 'blob', id: 135, data: {text: 'Welsing. How many of you have read the Isis papers? Okay. She sat at my dinner table in August of 2004 right before I came here and I said, “You know when I have a family with a black male in '}},
{ timecode: 2009, handler: 'blob', id: 136, data: {text: 'it, I mention to them they have to understand that the anger that they get isn’t about them, it’s that they have a weapon, and they have a weapon that can destroy the white race.” '}},
{ timecode: 2022, handler: 'blob', id: 137, data: {text: 'And she said, “When that policeman says I shot him because I thought he had a gun”. She said, “He does. And it’s in his genitals.” And she said, “We are the only '}},
{ timecode: 2038, handler: 'blob', id: 138, data: {text: 'people who have been lynched and had our genitals cut off and put in our faces or put in our minds, or put in our mouths. So the reality is, (she started laughing) every month I get a letter from a '}},
{ timecode: 2054, handler: 'blob', id: 139, data: {text: 'brother in prison who says, sister if I had just read your book and understood that it’s not about me, but that people of color are the majority on this planet and that what we are dealing with '}},
{ timecode: 2072, handler: 'blob', id: 140, data: {text: 'is the flip flop, that we are called the minority, and that we have the power to annihilate the white race.” So, what I’m talking to you about are some deeper level truths that may make '}},
{ timecode: 2089, handler: 'blob', id: 141, data: {text: 'you uncomfortable. But, Francis also says, and I want you to write this one down. “The degree you tune into truth is the degree of your wellness.” Somebody else who heard me, what was it '}},
{ timecode: 2108, handler: 'blob', id: 142, data: {text: 'you said? What was it you heard me say? This is interactive. Say it louder. Truth. Truth is the degree of your wellness. So, the sister who was standing up here is about wellness. She’s telling '}},
{ timecode: 2132, handler: 'blob', id: 143, data: {text: 'the truth. And the opposite is also true. The degree we deny truth is the degree of our mental disease. Do I need to repeat that one? You’re gonna steal that one. Okay, Dr. Francis Cress Welsing '}},
{ timecode: 2158, handler: 'blob', id: 144, data: {text: 'in the Isis papers. The degree that we walk around smiling with our whatever trappings we have and we cover up the hurts inside. Raise your hand. How many of you know that living with an alcoholic is '}},
{ timecode: 2182, handler: 'blob', id: 145, data: {text: 'like living in a war zone? How many of you know that women have PTSD? This is about truth telling. This is not about male bashing. This is about truth telling and having the courage to say, “I '}},
{ timecode: 2208, handler: 'blob', id: 146, data: {text: 'deserve to be healthy and whole.” Francis also has a saying that when women say they don’t need a male that they’re not tuned into the reality that it takes a male to help a male '}},
{ timecode: 2231, handler: 'blob', id: 147, data: {text: 'know how males handle feelings. Do I need to repeat that one? She’s not putting down men and she’s not putting down women who have to leave. But, the Randle Robinson with Trans Africa used '}},
{ timecode: 2256, handler: 'blob', id: 148, data: {text: 'to say, “The new racism is the prison complex. And the new way we knock down the family is to knock out the male.” If you are with somebody who is sick and doesn’t get help, it '}},
{ timecode: 2278, handler: 'blob', id: 149, data: {text: 'begins with you. You deserve goodness and respect and dignity all the time. And guess what? Domestic violence always happens after emotional violence. When I was standing in line to talk to Renee '}},
{ timecode: 2297, handler: 'blob', id: 150, data: {text: 'Poussaint, that’s his niece, to Alvin Poussaint, I was going to talk about emotional violence. Because sometimes we swallow when somebody rolls their eyes at us, or threatens us, or pushes us up '}},
{ timecode: 2319, handler: 'blob', id: 151, data: {text: 'against the wall. Well, I am here to tell you, emotional violence always happens before physical violence and there are clues all over the place. Tune into your belly button. When I had a chance to '}},
{ timecode: 2337, handler: 'blob', id: 152, data: {text: 'study with Virginia Satir in Sweden, she said, “Your belly button is your best instrument for knowing what’s going on. Trust your gut, because your gut doesn’t lie to you.” So, '}},
{ timecode: 2350, handler: 'blob', id: 153, data: {text: 'when I was teaching at Howard Medical School I would say to my residents and students, “Your best instrument is your belly button.” And they’d look at me. And I’d say, '}},
{ timecode: 2362, handler: 'blob', id: 154, data: {text: '“It’s not your scalpel, it’s not that thing you sort of carry around you neck, it’s listening to what your belly button says about this woman’s feelings, and that tells '}},
{ timecode: 2374, handler: 'blob', id: 155, data: {text: 'you where to begin if you’ve only got 15 or 20 minutes.” Because depression oozes out. Anger oozes out. So, you start with I’m feeling some uncomfortableness. Tell me, what’s '}},
{ timecode: 2393, handler: 'blob', id: 156, data: {text: 'the source of my uncomfortableness? Let’s talk about what’s really going on here? So, ladies and gentlemen, and did you know that female physical violence against men is also alive and '}},
{ timecode: 2409, handler: 'blob', id: 157, data: {text: 'well, and we just don’t talk about it? So, ladies, men if you aren’t getting emotional intimacy the sexual stuff isn’t about what it’s about. There is a huge difference between '}},
{ timecode: 2434, handler: 'blob', id: 158, data: {text: 'intimacy and sex. And some women grew up in families where they had rules that say you are not a real woman unless you have a man. Well, that’s a myth. You are a real woman when you say it '}},
{ timecode: 2456, handler: 'blob', id: 159, data: {text: 'begins here and dignity and respect lives here and not just on my birthday. And when you were talking about the violence coming and going. I’m here to do a little education on the cycle of '}},
{ timecode: 2470, handler: 'blob', id: 160, data: {text: 'violence. The first stage and many of you heard it is called tension building. How many of you know people in homes where they’re walking on egg shells? That’s called phase one. '}},
{ timecode: 2487, handler: 'blob', id: 161, data: {text: 'That’s called tension building. And tension building may go on for months and months and months and finally the woman will do something or the man will do something that will cause the storming '}},
{ timecode: 2499, handler: 'blob', id: 162, data: {text: 'that will cause the explosion. That’s phase two. But, that’s just because they know phase three is coming, which is the honeymoon phase. Which is the phase where you get another diamond. '}},
{ timecode: 2512, handler: 'blob', id: 163, data: {text: 'How many of you have been to AA meetings where women had eight diamonds on eight fingers because each time the honeymoon phase came, here came another diamond and here came another apology, and so the '}},
{ timecode: 2528, handler: 'blob', id: 164, data: {text: 'man promises I will never do it again. And then, guess what? The tension building starts. So, I find even as a volunteer on a hotline, just teaching the cycle of violence helps people to see that if '}},
{ timecode: 2550, handler: 'blob', id: 165, data: {text: 'this person doesn’t go and get help I can go and get help so that me and my child can live without a war zone. In other words, we deserve to tell the truth. Rita Dove has a poem and in it '}},
{ timecode: 2572, handler: 'blob', id: 166, data: {text: 'there’s a line that says, ‘Every hurt swallowed becomes a stone.’ Do I need to repeat that one? In other words, if you deny it, if you cover it up, you carry it and you carry it. And '}},
{ timecode: 2597, handler: 'blob', id: 167, data: {text: 'then somebody pulls in front of you or your child drops your favorite whatever and you lash out and whip that child with your words that would have been more painful if you’d just whip the child '}},
{ timecode: 2620, handler: 'blob', id: 168, data: {text: 'and said goodbye. So, I want you to know emotional abuse is just as hurting as physical abuse, but when we cover it up, the physical abuse will heal. The emotional abuse we just put it in a slush fund '}},
{ timecode: 2637, handler: 'blob', id: 169, data: {text: 'and just carry it and carry it and carry it. When Don Imus was being pejorative about the black women on the Rutger’s baseball team, basketball team, thank you. My university president, Ed '}},
{ timecode: 2659, handler: 'blob', id: 170, data: {text: 'Wheeler, wrote a letter to get out his anger, because he said, “I have a granddaughter who wants to be a marine biologist and if she runs into enough Don Imus’ in the world, she’s so '}},
{ timecode: 2672, handler: 'blob', id: 171, data: {text: 'young and so vulnerable that she will never get there.” And that was the day I walked by and just tapped on his door and he said, “Come in here I need to show you my letter.” And I '}},
{ timecode: 2682, handler: 'blob', id: 172, data: {text: 'said, “You tell it. You send it to everybody on campus. You send it to every news media out here. You don’t depress it. You express it. You tell it.” And when you tell the truth, '}},
{ timecode: 2700, handler: 'blob', id: 173, data: {text: 'healing happens. When you deny the truth, you are attracted to other people who are deny. When you tell the truth you are attracted to other people who say, “Sister, let me tell you what is '}},
{ timecode: 2721, handler: 'blob', id: 174, data: {text: 'going on in my life or going on in my pulpit.” So, positives attract. Francis Wellsing used to say to me, “The further you go down in yourself and discover and deal with your own mental '}},
{ timecode: 2737, handler: 'blob', id: 175, data: {text: 'health, the further up your antenna goes and you reverberate with people on that level.” So, the payoff for getting mental health therapy is that you are attracted to other people who are '}},
{ timecode: 2753, handler: 'blob', id: 176, data: {text: 'healthy. And if you don’t, you’re in good company when you’re by yourself. Because, you have learned to love yourself. You have personal power skills. And I talk about having a tool '}},
{ timecode: 2768, handler: 'blob', id: 177, data: {text: 'belt for dealing with stress that we need to teach our children. And the first tool is called deep breathing. I do yoga every morning down on the floor, because yoga retards aging, it quiets the '}},
{ timecode: 2784, handler: 'blob', id: 178, data: {text: 'brain, it lifts the spirit and it tones the body and I am 72-years-old and I ain’t lying to you. So, it begins with you. It begins with how you treat yourself every day. Because some people kill '}},
{ timecode: 2805, handler: 'blob', id: 179, data: {text: 'themselves with their fork. And it’s because they’re denying what it is that’s happened to them. I have some painful truths to say. One out of every four white women get abused. '}},
{ timecode: 2820, handler: 'blob', id: 180, data: {text: 'Sexually abused sometime in their life. One out of every three black women do. If you deny what I’m saying, read Dr. Wyatt’s book called ‘Stolen Women’ where during slavery we '}},
{ timecode: 2842, handler: 'blob', id: 181, data: {text: 'didn’t own ourselves. We think we have to have a man to be okay. Did you know that black women buy more deodorants to cleanse and make our vaginal area smell sweet than anybody else in the '}},
{ timecode: 2862, handler: 'blob', id: 182, data: {text: 'world? But it’s because we have been conditioned that our sexuality is the myth. The jezebel. The, what are some of the myths that you hear about black women? What? The what’s? Free, '}},
{ timecode: 2884, handler: 'blob', id: 183, data: {text: 'loose, yeah. I was at a cocktail party one time that the drunker a man got, the more he came over and says, “Boy, do you look hot to me.” That’s what he said. Yeah, that’s what '}},
{ timecode: 2900, handler: 'blob', id: 184, data: {text: 'he said, yeah. And because I had sense enough to know he was talking, but not with this head. And ladies, it ain’t hard to figure out when you’re talking to somebody which head '}},
{ timecode: 2914, handler: 'blob', id: 185, data: {text: 'they’re talking with. And, intimacy is about caring about feelings. And if somebody doesn’t care about your feelings, they don’t care about the rest of you. So, mistreatment comes in '}},
{ timecode: 2931, handler: 'blob', id: 186, data: {text: 'a variety of ways. In closing, I’d like to add that the skill, if you really want to help a child, take care of yourself. Be the example and your child is in your wake. Do you know what a wake '}},
{ timecode: 2956, handler: 'blob', id: 187, data: {text: 'is? You know, the boat goes down and the wake goes behind. So that if you want to teach dignity and respect, show it to other people and because what you show to other people is what you carry inside '}},
{ timecode: 2971, handler: 'blob', id: 188, data: {text: 'of you. Who controls what you carry inside of you? Are you going to say, “You made me do so and so or that man made me”. That’s bullshit. You are responsible for you. It is a myth '}},
{ timecode: 2989, handler: 'blob', id: 189, data: {text: 'that medications don’t work. It is a myth that you have to go to only somebody of your color. I had a Jewish therapist, therapist the entire time I was doing the second PH.D program at the '}},
{ timecode: 3004, handler: 'blob', id: 190, data: {text: 'University of Milwaukee. So, that it is not the color of somebody, it’s the quality of their humanity and their appreciation. By saying, “I appreciate you working with Head Start, I did '}},
{ timecode: 3020, handler: 'blob', id: 191, data: {text: 'that too”. I appreciate that you do this. And so, listen to your belly button rather than looking at what somebody looks like. Because, when you take your car in, do you want somebody who looks '}},
{ timecode: 3034, handler: 'blob', id: 192, data: {text: 'like you or somebody who knows what they’re doing? If you take your computer, the same thing. But, if your most private possession is your feeling and your belly button, then take it to somebody '}},
{ timecode: 3047, handler: 'blob', id: 193, data: {text: 'who’s going to help you have skills. So, that’s what I do in my consultation practice is help people have skills. And in closing, my last boss in Washington D.C. was Colin Powell, and he '}},
{ timecode: 3063, handler: 'blob', id: 194, data: {text: 'tells a story about Alma being pregnant with their first child. And that he was stopped and the policeman said, “Boy, you are wearing the wrong bumper sticker on your car.” He says, '}},
{ timecode: 3077, handler: 'blob', id: 195, data: {text: '“I want you to have Goldwater sticker.” And he said, “I thought about Alma, and I thought about my children. And I said the two words that got me out of there alive. Yes sir.” '}},
{ timecode: 3091, handler: 'blob', id: 196, data: {text: 'In other words, tell the truth. Find somebody who cares about your feelings, regardless of what they look like, and stay there. And if you’re dealing with grief and loss, find somebody who knows '}},
{ timecode: 3107, handler: 'blob', id: 197, data: {text: 'something about it. Because you don’t just get over it, you get over it when you get over it. But you write about it, you talk about it, you express it, and you tell the truth in ways that do no '}},
{ timecode: 3120, handler: 'blob', id: 198, data: {text: 'harm. Thank you. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Then it is now question and answer period, and we can line up here at the mic, and I will acknowledge you. (pause) No questions? If you have questions '}},
{ timecode: 3140, handler: 'blob', id: 199, data: {text: 'let’s line up at the mic. We have approximately – Dena (sp.), what, ten minutes? A little more than that? OK, 15 minutes. AUDIENCE MEMBER: Can anyone tell me what the numbers are as far as '}},
{ timecode: 3153, handler: 'blob', id: 200, data: {text: 'domestic violence, how many women are abused? The ones that live in Indianapolis, in Marion County, I did know those numbers. But, they are extremely high, they are startling really, when you hear the '}},
{ timecode: 3163, handler: 'blob', id: 201, data: {text: 'numbers of how many women that are physically abused and in relationships. DELPHIA LARGE (fade in) well one of the….abused by the…..(not at mic) …….its domestic violence. '}},
{ timecode: 3175, handler: 'blob', id: 202, data: {text: 'The report is that every nine seconds a woman is abused physically. As far as the numbers in Marion County, I don’t know those numbers off the top of my head, but I do know that every nine '}},
{ timecode: 3188, handler: 'blob', id: 203, data: {text: 'seconds someone is abused physically. Thank you. AUDIENCE MEMBER: Hi, I wanted to just ask you as well, as far as, do you also work with women that have been in the service, out of the service, things '}},
{ timecode: 3203, handler: 'blob', id: 204, data: {text: 'such as that – do you get referrals? DELPHIA LARGE: Are you speaking to me? AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes Ma\'am, I’m sorry. DELPHIA LARGE: No, that’s fine. We speak to, or we talk to, anyone '}},
{ timecode: 3210, handler: 'blob', id: 205, data: {text: 'who is a victim of violence. So, if the person is in a domestic violence situation, whether they are a veteran or not, we will talk to that person, counsel that person. We not only see people who are '}},
{ timecode: 3223, handler: 'blob', id: 206, data: {text: 'affected by domestic violence, but incest, molest, homicide, suicide, burglary, robbery, arson, all of those. But my specialty is domestic violence, yes. So, to answer your question, yes. AUDIENCE '}},
{ timecode: 3237, handler: 'blob', id: 207, data: {text: 'MEMBER: I want to thank the Legacy House Program because I have referred a number of people to that program. My question is, is there an appropriate way to facilitate that. I’m sure from city to '}},
{ timecode: 3252, handler: 'blob', id: 208, data: {text: 'city and program to program that differs, but I am never quite sure how to tell them about the services that are available except to go to your web page. Do you have handouts that I can access and '}},
{ timecode: 3262, handler: 'blob', id: 209, data: {text: 'those kinds of things? DELPHIA LARGE: As far as, with me today? AUDIENCE MEMBER: No, not -- that I can call or… DELPHIA LARGE: Well, a person can call our number to do an intake. As far '}},
{ timecode: 3274, handler: 'blob', id: 210, data: {text: 'referring them, you can refer anyone to us. It doesn’t matter. If they are a victim of violence we will see them, whether they are the primary victim or a secondary victim. Meaning that, '}},
{ timecode: 3284, handler: 'blob', id: 211, data: {text: 'let’s say, your mother was in a domestic violence situation, we would see you. Even though it didn’t actually happen to you, because it affected you, then we will see you. The children are '}},
{ timecode: 3297, handler: 'blob', id: 212, data: {text: 'a very big population that we see there at Legacy House. The children really, they are affected in so many ways, you know, they are the silent victims. So, we will see the children as well. AUDIENCE '}},
{ timecode: 3310, handler: 'blob', id: 213, data: {text: 'MEMBER: I want to thank all of the panel. Your stories, and your work is inspirational. Thank you, all of you. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: I am going to inject here, if you allow me to, that we ask '}},
{ timecode: 3321, handler: 'blob', id: 214, data: {text: 'questions only, no comments. Dr. Bryant has a question. DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: Who is the biggest perpetrator of incest in families? And this leads to another question. We are doing truth telling '}},
{ timecode: 3348, handler: 'blob', id: 215, data: {text: 'here. Who is the biggest perpetrator of incest in families? (Audience random chatter) AUDIENCE MEMBERS: Uncles? (Dr. Bryant shakes her head no to all audience responses being called out.) DR. FLORA '}},
{ timecode: 3359, handler: 'blob', id: 216, data: {text: 'BELL BRYANT: Brothers. My question is, I am teaching ministers who have been sexually abused themselves. And they think if they read enough books or stay on their knees long enough, that they '}},
{ timecode: 3380, handler: 'blob', id: 217, data: {text: 'don’t need trauma therapy. And so, my question is, do you provide trauma therapy for males who have been sexually abused? DELPHIA LARGE: Yes we do. We provide therapy for not only men, not only '}},
{ timecode: 3397, handler: 'blob', id: 218, data: {text: 'children and women, but also for the men too. We had, the group is not as active as it was before. But, men who had been molested as children, that was a big group that we had at one time. So, yes, we '}},
{ timecode: 3410, handler: 'blob', id: 219, data: {text: 'do see men who have been affected by incest and molest. AUDIENCE MEMBER: I’ll be brief. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Please. REPRESENTATIVE KENNETH DUNKIN: You know, the question really has to '}},
{ timecode: 3424, handler: 'blob', id: 220, data: {text: 'be really for us, as legislators, to find out what active programs, that are actually funded in our respective states, that deal with men teaching boys how to respect women. I see panels all the time. '}},
{ timecode: 3441, handler: 'blob', id: 221, data: {text: 'It’s always, I’ve heard…. I’m certified. I’m a certified domestic violence counselor. I took the class. It’s a, we view it, men, as a female issue. Oh, she’s '}},
{ timecode: 3452, handler: 'blob', id: 222, data: {text: 'been victimized, and the social service, all the wrap-around services has to be with women. The court advocates typically are women. But as legislators, and black men in particular, we should ask '}},
{ timecode: 3463, handler: 'blob', id: 223, data: {text: 'ourselves, what programs are in the grade schools, in the high schools, that are mandatory, for us, again, men, because women, you can’t do everything. And I think we can do a tremendously '}},
{ timecode: 3476, handler: 'blob', id: 224, data: {text: 'better job of educating boys – boys who are also influenced by these videos, by these movies, songs, AUDIENCE MEMBER: “BET”, REPRESENTATIVE KENNETH DUNKIN: … BET, and MTV, so '}},
{ timecode: 3491, handler: 'blob', id: 225, data: {text: 'the question is, REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: and he promised, he promised (laughs) REPRESENTATIVE KENNETH DUNKIN: You’re supposed to be on my side, Representative. The question is, what '}},
{ timecode: 3502, handler: 'blob', id: 226, data: {text: 'programs are in our respective states that address issues of violence when it’s a male focus, and it’s run and administered by men, so these are questions to the black male legislators, or '}},
{ timecode: 3518, handler: 'blob', id: 227, data: {text: 'the ladies who may be familiar with such programs. And that’s the way you are going to stop it. AUDIENCE MEMBER: There can be prevention programs. … (talking) DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: Men '}},
{ timecode: 3529, handler: 'blob', id: 228, data: {text: 'can lead prevention programs. We don’t have to wait until the war starts. You do prevention programs on tools for managing your anger constructively, rather than turning it in and hurting '}},
{ timecode: 3543, handler: 'blob', id: 229, data: {text: 'yourself. So, men do prevention programs; I don’t care what you call it. Call it a trust group, call it a male bonding group, I don’t care what you call it, just get out there and do some '}},
{ timecode: 3553, handler: 'blob', id: 230, data: {text: 'prevention early. (clapping) REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: And we have to remember as legislators we cannot legislate moral values. I mean, we hear this all the time. There are ways through '}},
{ timecode: 3568, handler: 'blob', id: 231, data: {text: 'organizations that can deal with that. We are going to move now into our questions with Detroit. They do have questions. My colleague, Senator Hansen Clarke should be available. Senator Clarke? Before '}},
{ timecode: 3595, handler: 'blob', id: 232, data: {text: 'we move into, as we are getting Detroit. Question? WESLYNN WHITLOW: Well, I just wanted to say that is what our Abigail ministry does with the women at our churches. We don’t really take the '}},
{ timecode: 3610, handler: 'blob', id: 233, data: {text: 'women that are going through it; we help the women that have been through it. And we help them live healthier lives. And we are eventually going to try to integrate the male part, find somebody that '}},
{ timecode: 3622, handler: 'blob', id: 234, data: {text: 'can help the male, you know, to teach them, if they had been through it, say, because there is a situation where women are abusive too. And not physically, but emotionally. So, we are going to '}},
{ timecode: 3633, handler: 'blob', id: 235, data: {text: 'eventually work that piece into our Abigail’s group. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Very good, that’s one response. My colleague, Senator Clarke, if you will just allow me, I’m told in '}},
{ timecode: 3644, handler: 'blob', id: 236, data: {text: 'the audience today, is a group of women from Flint, Michigan, I would love to acknowledge, who have been very involved in my campaign, have been very involved with me since I have been in the '}},
{ timecode: 3657, handler: 'blob', id: 237, data: {text: 'legislature, and I would like to acknowledge the group that is headed by Mrs. Barbara Kirkland, who are from GCard and I would like to say hello to all of them. AUDIENCE MEMBER: If we have time, we '}},
{ timecode: 3670, handler: 'blob', id: 238, data: {text: 'have two questions, but I will deal with them separately. The first question is, comparing the difference between post-traumatic slavery disorder and post-traumatic stress disorder….. (noise in '}},
{ timecode: 3684, handler: 'blob', id: 239, data: {text: 'audience) AUDIENCE MEMBER: ……from and that arises throughout the generations because of discrimination and segregation, person….trauma that some may experience from a military '}},
{ timecode: 3696, handler: 'blob', id: 240, data: {text: 'counselor or …….(faint, cuts out). DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: I’m not sure what is meant by post-traumatic slavery, because the slavery experience was not just one kind of experience. '}},
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{ timecode: 3730, handler: 'blob', id: 242, data: {text: 'one slave experience, but we have to tell what our truths are about what our individual stories are. Take a look at the movie Down In the Delta, in which there was a family that grew together because '}},
{ timecode: 3750, handler: 'blob', id: 243, data: {text: 'of a little boy seeing his father sold for a silver candelabra. They used that candelabra to go through the generations to tell the story about ‘we care, but we tell our story’, so that '}},
{ timecode: 3768, handler: 'blob', id: 244, data: {text: 'there is not one slave story, but we must tell our stories. AUDIENCE MEMBER: You know, I would like to add to that, if you go to the library or go online, and pick up Dr. Kenneth Stampp’s book, '}},
{ timecode: 3784, handler: 'blob', id: 245, data: {text: 'I think it is the third chapter, To Make Them Stand in Fear, it talks about how you make the righteous kind of slave that you want. Another book is if you look at Dr. Stanley Elkins’ book, '}},
{ timecode: 3799, handler: 'blob', id: 246, data: {text: 'it’s entitled Slavery, and look at the chapter on personality development. Once you look at that, my brothers, you will understand what we have gone through in basic training. Because one of the '}},
{ timecode: 3814, handler: 'blob', id: 247, data: {text: 'things they do in basic training, if we are talking about PTSD in the military, is that they break you down to where you are nothing. When the drill sergeant says ‘jump’ your response is '}},
{ timecode: 3828, handler: 'blob', id: 248, data: {text: '‘how high.’ So, but if you look at Dr. Kenneth Stampp’s Peculiar Institution: Slavery and look at that chapter on To Make Them Stand in Fear, you will see it there, as well as in Dr. '}},
{ timecode: 3841, handler: 'blob', id: 249, data: {text: 'Elkins’ book. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: That’s history. Peculiar Institution. Another name for it was slavery, rather than use the term slavery, that you said The Peculiar Institution. '}},
{ timecode: 3852, handler: 'blob', id: 250, data: {text: 'Great. AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Faintly) But you won’t find it on BET, you have to get to the library. (audience laughs and talks) REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: We have one more question from Detroit, '}},
{ timecode: 3865, handler: 'blob', id: 251, data: {text: 'Senator Clarke. Question from Detroit. SENATOR HANSEN CLARKE: Thank you Representative Clack, and just to shout out to representative Ken Dunkin , I appreciate your comments about male responsibility. '}},
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{ timecode: 3895, handler: 'blob', id: 253, data: {text: 'prevail. So, how could our legal system be transformed to better support women, and others, who are victimized? (faint voice in background) REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Would you like to come up to '}},
{ timecode: 3914, handler: 'blob', id: 254, data: {text: 'the mic? REVEREND TONI COLBERT: We recently had an incident, an unfortunate incident at our church. It involved domestic violence. One thing led to another. It was significant. In Marion County we '}},
{ timecode: 3932, handler: 'blob', id: 255, data: {text: 'have zero tolerance for any kind of violence. The husband ended up being taken down to jail. He was there for five days. When he had his arraignment before the judge, the wife came. First of all, she '}},
{ timecode: 3951, handler: 'blob', id: 256, data: {text: 'had some responsibility in this too. What they presented to the judge was, ‘we would like to get counseling, but we would like to get counseling at our church. We have a pastoral counselor, '}},
{ timecode: 3966, handler: 'blob', id: 257, data: {text: 'would you allow that?’ And they allowed that. Very, very, strict things that had to be taken care of and documentation, but they allowed that. I am saying that to say – that awareness. If '}},
{ timecode: 3982, handler: 'blob', id: 258, data: {text: 'that connection can be made, that connection needs to be made. And maybe courts sometimes need to look at some other - look at the church for that opportunity. I’m pleased to say that that took '}},
{ timecode: 3995, handler: 'blob', id: 259, data: {text: 'place. They healed. They are growing. It’s still an issue, and they are growing. And I think it is because one of them said, and I don’t know if it was the wife or husband, ‘I would '}},
{ timecode: 4007, handler: 'blob', id: 260, data: {text: 'like to get counseling, but can I get it at the church.’ Sometimes judges and the legal system are so bogged down and so busy that they don’t have time to sit down and look at that whole '}},
{ timecode: 4018, handler: 'blob', id: 261, data: {text: 'person. All they are doing is trying to get that case taken care of. So, I would like to see our court system at least consider some other options in making that awareness available, where people can '}},
{ timecode: 4030, handler: 'blob', id: 262, data: {text: 'get help. DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: When I was teaching in Kalamazoo, there was a judge who would say to parents, if your child comes back to this court for the third time this year, I will either '}},
{ timecode: 4047, handler: 'blob', id: 263, data: {text: 'mandate that that child go to an institution, or I mandate that you do three sessions of therapy. And usually after the third session of therapy it was turned from involuntary therapy, ‘I '}},
{ timecode: 4064, handler: 'blob', id: 264, data: {text: 'don’t want to be here’ to, ‘would you please help us deal with this particular problem.’ So that you mandate either jail or counseling. And at first there is resistance, but '}},
{ timecode: 4077, handler: 'blob', id: 265, data: {text: 'that’s okay, that’s the first stage. Most of us are resistant when we go. But, if you stay and there is a bonding, then there is a psychological bonding. So, legislate alternatives. For '}},
{ timecode: 4092, handler: 'blob', id: 266, data: {text: 'people who stayed, 90 percent of the kids never came back, because the parents dealt with their issues. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: I think we have two questions now in Miami. Then we will come back '}},
{ timecode: 4107, handler: 'blob', id: 267, data: {text: 'to…. Miami. Miami? MIAMI AUDIENCE MEMBER: Thank you. Can you hear us? REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Yes, we can. MIAMI AUDIENCE MEMBER: We have two questions, I am going to ask the first '}},
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{ timecode: 4136, handler: 'blob', id: 269, data: {text: 'violence, that practitioners should look for when they assess some of their clients? (repeated over the loud speaker.) That practitioners look for when they assess some of their clients? DR. FLORA '}},
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{ timecode: 4165, handler: 'blob', id: 271, data: {text: 'person wants to triangulate so that the two of us will be against that person. So, one is that you simply say, ‘let’s hear from what this person has to say.’ Or maybe, ‘why '}},
{ timecode: 4179, handler: 'blob', id: 272, data: {text: 'don’t we have one session with one person, and have another session with the other person?’ And then be aware that the person who is being abused has been conditioned to say, ‘there '}},
{ timecode: 4193, handler: 'blob', id: 273, data: {text: 'is nothing wrong’ and so you hide your burns. So you have to be subtle and pick up who has been so brainwashed and so conditioned, that even if you talk with them by themselves, you have to say, '}},
{ timecode: 4209, handler: 'blob', id: 274, data: {text: '‘you know, my gut is telling me that there is an elephant that is in the room, that is under the rug.’ So that you’ll be sensitive to who is talking and talk to the one who’s '}},
{ timecode: 4223, handler: 'blob', id: 275, data: {text: 'not, and let them know that, if necessary, what you say is in confidence. But listen to your skin. Your skin is your biggest sense organ. Your skin picks up volumes of information. DELPHIA LARGE: And, '}},
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{ timecode: 4260, handler: 'blob', id: 277, data: {text: 'on her, on Dr. Bryant, is that women are not going to tell what they’re really going through if the perpetrator is in the room. So, we have to separate the two out. That is what they are doing '}},
{ timecode: 4275, handler: 'blob', id: 278, data: {text: 'here in Indianapolis with the Center of Hopes. There are domestic violence, sexual assault programs within the hospitals, where they separate if they get any idea that there is something going on in '}},
{ timecode: 4288, handler: 'blob', id: 279, data: {text: 'the emergency room. They will separate those two individuals to get that woman in a safe spot, because she will not really tell what is going on if she is in the room with the perpetrator. So it is '}},
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{ timecode: 4308, handler: 'blob', id: 281, data: {text: 'going on Joe?’ ‘Well, I don’t know why she’s got me in here.’ And then she says, ‘but he hit me in the…’ and he looks at her like ‘I’m '}},
{ timecode: 4317, handler: 'blob', id: 282, data: {text: 'really going to get you when we get home.’ DR FLORA BELL BRYANT: He looks at her like ‘I am going to kill you.’ DELPHIA LARGE: Yeah, ‘I’m going to kill you.’ And '}},
{ timecode: 4322, handler: 'blob', id: 283, data: {text: 'so, the therapist, or the counselor, you know, I’m not in that relationship, so I don’t know what his look looks like, but she does. And so, it is real important that we really be real '}},
{ timecode: 4337, handler: 'blob', id: 284, data: {text: 'careful with putting the perpetrator and the victim in the same room. REVEREND TONI COLBERT: I would also ditto what has been said on this particular area. But also, I don’t have a problem with '}},
{ timecode: 4352, handler: 'blob', id: 285, data: {text: 'asking them, are you abused. Then, I will give them the definition of abused. While I am asking, and while I am listening, I am also paying attention to a lot of non-verbal cuing, what is going on at '}},
{ timecode: 4366, handler: 'blob', id: 286, data: {text: 'that time. But before that, I am hoping that I have established a relationship with them, because they are apt to tell you a little more. Very apt to tell you a little bit more, so. REPRESENTATIVE '}},
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{ timecode: 4406, handler: 'blob', id: 289, data: {text: 'are… REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Where adult children are…did you understand the question? PANEL MEMBERS: No. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: The question is, instances, we are talking '}},
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{ timecode: 4429, handler: 'blob', id: 291, data: {text: 'On that issue? AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes ma\'am, same issue. What if it is the female doing the beating, and the male receiving, and he don’t want to let you know how weak he might be…. (crowd '}},
{ timecode: 4439, handler: 'blob', id: 292, data: {text: 'chatting) Na, na. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Continue, continue AUDIENCE MEMBER: Now, I have to continued since they seem to think they know it all. (laughing.) But you understand what I am trying '}},
{ timecode: 4449, handler: 'blob', id: 293, data: {text: 'to say. You, okay? DELPHIA LARGE Now, are we answering the question on the elder abuse issue? REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: No, we left the elder abuse, and this has to do with reversal of our last '}},
{ timecode: 4462, handler: 'blob', id: 294, data: {text: 'question. AUDIENCE MEMBER: So, she was picking up on the vibes that were going on between the two parties, and I am saying, why don’t we just reverse the table, and make it where the female is '}},
{ timecode: 4472, handler: 'blob', id: 295, data: {text: 'doing the aggressive action… DELPHIA LARGE: The abuser? The aggressive action? AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. DELPHIA LARGE: Okay. There is no difference. Women will do the same types of things that men '}},
{ timecode: 4482, handler: 'blob', id: 296, data: {text: 'will do if they are abusive; I am not just an advocate for women who abuse, I am an advocate for men. I have men who are my clients who are victims of domestic violence. AUDIENCE MEMBER: But we are '}},
{ timecode: 4499, handler: 'blob', id: 297, data: {text: 'saying are they as honest in reporting to you? DELPHIA LARGE: They don’t report as much. But, it is a hallelujah good day when a man calls in and says ‘I am abused and I need help.’ '}},
{ timecode: 4508, handler: 'blob', id: 298, data: {text: 'AUDIENCE MEMBER: So the female says, when I get you home, I am really going to whip your…. DELPHIA LARGE: No, they will do the same. Actually, in all honesty, it does happen. AUDIENCE MEMBER: '}},
{ timecode: 4517, handler: 'blob', id: 299, data: {text: 'See, I am asking these questions and I am a single guy and I have not gone through that just yet. (laughing). DELPHIA LARGE: I just want to say this, it’s because… REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA '}},
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{ timecode: 4529, handler: 'blob', id: 301, data: {text: 'reversal. On the issue of elder abuse, having been at a workshop through NBC SL, the instances of elder abuse are increasing, as we know. Because we now have children that are moving back home with '}},
{ timecode: 4543, handler: 'blob', id: 302, data: {text: 'the parents, who are controlling their finances. We have families who are now relying, or the mom and dad want to stay at home, rather than move into some type of institution. We have the instances of '}},
{ timecode: 4556, handler: 'blob', id: 303, data: {text: 'drugs that are now forcing the children, allowing the children, to move back home with their parents, so the instances of elder abuse are increasing. Some of us were at that workshop. We know, but the '}},
{ timecode: 4568, handler: 'blob', id: 304, data: {text: 'answer to that definitely is yes. Do you want to relate to that? And do we have any more questions come in from….okay, Dr. Bryant? DR. FLORA BELL BRYANT: Some of the biggest drug users and drug '}},
{ timecode: 4583, handler: 'blob', id: 305, data: {text: 'abusers are the elderly who live in very, very exclusive communities. So, drug abuse doesn’t just happen with people that look like us. There are people who mis-use prescription drugs. And it is '}},
{ timecode: 4603, handler: 'blob', id: 306, data: {text: 'up to neighbors, church, and healthcare providers to be aware that, in reality, and this sponsor may not be happy with this…in reality, the biggest drug pusher in the country is that salesman '}},
{ timecode: 4623, handler: 'blob', id: 307, data: {text: 'in that three-piece suit. And that there is a lot of elder abuse by people over-using meds with the elders to keep them addicted. AUDIENCE MEMBER: Yes. REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: Thank you so much, '}},
{ timecode: 4641, handler: 'blob', id: 308, data: {text: 'I want to thank all of our panelists again, would you please give them a round of applause? (applause) REPRESENTATIVE BRENDA CLACK: I am going to ask our chair. Are we…there was another '}},
{ timecode: 4654, handler: 'blob', id: 309, data: {text: 'question? Not in Miami. REPRESENTATIVE CLACK: We have to move forward, an open mic. Our chair, Representative Armstrong, you can now come forward. REPRESENTATIVE JOE ARMSTRONG: Thank you vice chair. Let\'s give this panel a hand. Thank you for an outstanding program.'}}
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